This confirms what I intuitively suspected about women and tattoos. One or two small, elegant tattoos in places that are easy to conceal isn’t necessarily the end of the world. But a lot of tattoos on a woman, especially very conspicuous and tacky ones, is a big red flag for me. I should note that as a man, fairly or unfairly, I don’t think a lot of tattoos is a good sign on a man either. It would be interesting to see what the studies say about men and tattoos as well.
Several large tattoos: indicative of impulse control issues, in both sexes.
Several large tattoos, but for young women: Indicative of rebelliousness/unstable famillial relations, and higher likelyhood of being sexually promiscuous.
Symbolic and psychosomatic literacy gives one the ability to decipher an entire life story.
Tattoos also act as natural warning signs, akin to bright colors in nature.
In nature, bright colors serve as vivid warning signs for predators to stay away. Known as aposematism, this evolutionary defense uses striking hues like red, yellow, and orange, often combined with high-contrast black patterns, to advertise toxicity, venom, or foul taste.”
“Uglification” can also serve as a repellent to keep outsiders away and as a marker of group identification. It acts as a protective mechanism because strong group identification creates a psychosomatic sense of safety through familiar visual and behavioral cues.
The Mimicry Trick: Batesian Mimicry
Interestingly, some harmless species have evolved to mimic the bright warning colors of dangerous animals. By adopting these exact patterns, they trick predators into leaving them alone without actually possessing any dangerous traits themselves.
Or that they get their bad ideas from using mass social media far too much, because the first thing anybody does when they get inked is of course to put a lot of snapshots of it on instagram or whatnot.
If women rate tattooed women as less attractive, how on earth were any women persuaded to get tattoos in the first place? What is wrong with modern women? Why are they making themselves uglier?
They literally say that more men cold contact women with visible tattoos in the article. Just like men subconsciously associated easy sexual access with tattoos, the women probably noticed the cold contacting.
I have never understood women’s desire to “uglify” their bodies with tattoos. A very small butterfly is one thing but the almost full body of black designs is just ugly. God gave women beautiful skin, they should leave it as created.
There was a fad of women shaving half their head a few years back.
A few celebs did it and droves of girls followed
The copycat instinct is strong in women…they want to fit in with whatever seems popular.
In the ancestral environment being cast out the group for a woman, being smaller, weaker, and less intelligent than a man, was almost certain death. So they try to blend in and I assume that’s why the trait persists.
Well, Zorost, what a statement about more of the "war between men and women". I was plenty promiscuous in my youth long ago and I leaarned, every speck of the experience was a full-on disaster. I am not naive to human behavior and I did plenty of pursuing of men on my own in youth. The results were not pretty: STD's, two abortions, broken heart (self and others) and loneliness. Bonding for life with one person is very difficult, I did not succeed at that...but all the pursuing of the "game" remains a sad statement on human beings.
Alex Valentine, I did return to my roots in God and His Son and have found great meaning and purpose! Thank you for asking! While I certainly have my moments, I do not live in total sadness! I am plugging along as a writer and Elder of 73. Life is good for me. Blessings to you, Wendy
The future belongs to those who show up. If tattoos signal availability then more offspring will occur than with those with less tattoos. Might not be Truman show living results but hey , grandkids is grandkids …
If at the end of days you get judged on something more than the stuff you’ve managed to grab around you, then most westerners are truly screwed… get some kids , don’t bother with anything else.
Ceterus paribus … there’s a lot more chance of producing children if you are having sex. Believe me on that. And children that exist have a better chance of mating than children that don’t exist.
Young women, who age more rapidly than any other cohort (and have more to lose by aging), will go all the way up their arses trying to convince us that they're not.
When they're 25, they apply makeup and eyeliner to make themselves look 18.
When they're 35, they apply makeup and eyeliner to make themselves look 18.
But aging is just "changes in an organism over time". Two pictures of the same woman, but in one picture, she has a tattoo that she did not have in the first.
I agree with the findings. For some reason I think the same about women with tatts. I don't know why. Maybe it's because they've allowed someone to do that to their skin, often in places that require undressing. Sleaves and calves covered in tatts are awful.
I’m in my 60s. The tattoo craze in Western society is relatively new. When I was younger, the only people with tattoos were men with either military or prison experience, motorcycle gangs, and other counterculture types. These were rites of passage. And, yes, they were undoubtedly signals. Fraternity. Membership. Part of the club.
The first tattoo I ever saw on a woman was on a biker chick. Okay, same type of signal. Then it became an act of rebellion. Mommy says no tat? Just wait till I hit 18! So, yes, a signal.
When the lower back tattoos started showing up, the people most critical of women with them were… other women.
Woman to friend: “Did you see Hayley got herself a tramp stamp?”
Woman friend, rolling her eyes, “Why am I not surprised?”
Nowadays, they call it body art and turn themselves into a walking scrapbook of traumatic life events. Even my goddaughter has a tattoo of her dead cat. “To remember him by.” Good grief.
I don’t see male tats the same. From my casual observation. I am not gay, by the way, so I haven’t really thought about it. But casual observation says guys who tat up tend to be heavier drinkers and drug users. They tend to be LESS career oriented, other than in construction trades.
I personally find heavily tatted up women to be not attractive. Even if I can look under the ink and see someone objectively very attractive.
Richard Cooper, thank you for this powerful and yet very sorrowful exposition on what I call, at 73 and 1/2, "the war between men and women", a centuries-long battle that does nothing to heal our tribes. I was extremely promiscuous in my youth, for a decade and only got STD's, two abortions in 1973, broken heart (gave and received) and the realization that all this prowling only leads to sadness. "Getting our rocks off" is not much of a noble goal, even when I understand the pursuit. I have ZERO tatoos, only earlobes pierced and that is it. I pursued men with gusto in my youth and had to learn a very sobering lesson...promiscuity does not lead anywhere good. Interesting statement: "Men are not wrong to read the signal - but understanding what the signal actually means is what separates a man who vets well from a man who gets played." If that is not a sad statement between men and women, I do not know what is. I am not ugly but I am hardly a great beauty, not a Lambo...but I have high intelligence, kindness, compassion, empathy, street-smart direct life experience and I do understand the broken-ness pouring out between men and women. I am grateful to no longer be young and in the awful battles. Keep writing, Sir. Wendy
This confirms what I intuitively suspected about women and tattoos. One or two small, elegant tattoos in places that are easy to conceal isn’t necessarily the end of the world. But a lot of tattoos on a woman, especially very conspicuous and tacky ones, is a big red flag for me. I should note that as a man, fairly or unfairly, I don’t think a lot of tattoos is a good sign on a man either. It would be interesting to see what the studies say about men and tattoos as well.
Several large tattoos: indicative of impulse control issues, in both sexes.
Several large tattoos, but for young women: Indicative of rebelliousness/unstable famillial relations, and higher likelyhood of being sexually promiscuous.
Personally. Tattoos on women are disgusting… and in general.
Trauma inking tells their stories.
Symbolic and psychosomatic literacy gives one the ability to decipher an entire life story.
Tattoos also act as natural warning signs, akin to bright colors in nature.
In nature, bright colors serve as vivid warning signs for predators to stay away. Known as aposematism, this evolutionary defense uses striking hues like red, yellow, and orange, often combined with high-contrast black patterns, to advertise toxicity, venom, or foul taste.”
“Uglification” can also serve as a repellent to keep outsiders away and as a marker of group identification. It acts as a protective mechanism because strong group identification creates a psychosomatic sense of safety through familiar visual and behavioral cues.
The Mimicry Trick: Batesian Mimicry
Interestingly, some harmless species have evolved to mimic the bright warning colors of dangerous animals. By adopting these exact patterns, they trick predators into leaving them alone without actually possessing any dangerous traits themselves.
Damn good point.
And the alarming part of this is the tattoos are so common, which doesn’t mean it’s normal but that so many women are carrying tons of trauma.
Correct
More than we can imagine.
Or that they get their bad ideas from using mass social media far too much, because the first thing anybody does when they get inked is of course to put a lot of snapshots of it on instagram or whatnot.
“I’ll do it because my friends are doing it.”
As a discerning male, tattoos and facial piercings are a turn-off, as is brightly colored hair.
Oh yes, a woman smoking or dipping is also a no-go.
I refer to the hardware on someone's face as sh.. I will avoid talking to anyone who has sh.. on their face.
“Excuse me miss, have your landed face first in a fish tackle box recently?”
If women rate tattooed women as less attractive, how on earth were any women persuaded to get tattoos in the first place? What is wrong with modern women? Why are they making themselves uglier?
Less attractive, but men are more likely to give them attention.
So technically, they are more attractive in the literal sense of the word.
Indeed. Tattoos used to be a thing almost exclusive to indigenous people, navy men, and prostitutes.
They literally say that more men cold contact women with visible tattoos in the article. Just like men subconsciously associated easy sexual access with tattoos, the women probably noticed the cold contacting.
I have never understood women’s desire to “uglify” their bodies with tattoos. A very small butterfly is one thing but the almost full body of black designs is just ugly. God gave women beautiful skin, they should leave it as created.
Peer pressure is certainly some of it...I hate tattoos on both men and women!
Dani Sulikowski and Helen Andrews to the answer. Intrasexual competition rears its ugly head.
There was a fad of women shaving half their head a few years back.
A few celebs did it and droves of girls followed
The copycat instinct is strong in women…they want to fit in with whatever seems popular.
In the ancestral environment being cast out the group for a woman, being smaller, weaker, and less intelligent than a man, was almost certain death. So they try to blend in and I assume that’s why the trait persists.
women aren't less intelligent, they have a different set of mental strengths than men do. Not the same thing.
I said intellect, not strength.
You can be mentally “strong” (unquantifiable) and still be dumb.
Please stop sharing this where women can see, one of our few advantages over them is they always tell on themselves in some way.
Well, Zorost, what a statement about more of the "war between men and women". I was plenty promiscuous in my youth long ago and I leaarned, every speck of the experience was a full-on disaster. I am not naive to human behavior and I did plenty of pursuing of men on my own in youth. The results were not pretty: STD's, two abortions, broken heart (self and others) and loneliness. Bonding for life with one person is very difficult, I did not succeed at that...but all the pursuing of the "game" remains a sad statement on human beings.
Wow that sounds incredibly sad. I hope you found something with lasting depth, unless you’re truly an epicurean to the core.
Alex Valentine, I did return to my roots in God and His Son and have found great meaning and purpose! Thank you for asking! While I certainly have my moments, I do not live in total sadness! I am plugging along as a writer and Elder of 73. Life is good for me. Blessings to you, Wendy
Yours sounds like a life well lived--glad to hear it!
Thanks much, Alex, same back to you!!!
Do we? 😉
The future belongs to those who show up. If tattoos signal availability then more offspring will occur than with those with less tattoos. Might not be Truman show living results but hey , grandkids is grandkids …
Just watched Truman Show :) !!
If at the end of days you get judged on something more than the stuff you’ve managed to grab around you, then most westerners are truly screwed… get some kids , don’t bother with anything else.
Yes! A commenter using Latin phrases and also the “showing up” principle! Of course, if a libertine lady is unshackled from contraception
Well, having sex doesn’t equal having children and having children doesn’t equal having children that anyone wants to spend time around.
Ceterus paribus … there’s a lot more chance of producing children if you are having sex. Believe me on that. And children that exist have a better chance of mating than children that don’t exist.
“Look at me”.. me me me me.
Walk away fellas.
Young women, who age more rapidly than any other cohort (and have more to lose by aging), will go all the way up their arses trying to convince us that they're not.
When they're 25, they apply makeup and eyeliner to make themselves look 18.
When they're 35, they apply makeup and eyeliner to make themselves look 18.
But aging is just "changes in an organism over time". Two pictures of the same woman, but in one picture, she has a tattoo that she did not have in the first.
In which picture does the woman look older?
It's such a mind-boggling stupid own-goal.
I agree with the findings. For some reason I think the same about women with tatts. I don't know why. Maybe it's because they've allowed someone to do that to their skin, often in places that require undressing. Sleaves and calves covered in tatts are awful.
I married long before the tattoo ‘fad’. If I was dating today though, tattoos on a woman would be a non-starter for me.
I would never put a bumper sticker on a Rolls Royce. Nope
We used to call them Tramp Stamps for a reason.
I’m in my 60s. The tattoo craze in Western society is relatively new. When I was younger, the only people with tattoos were men with either military or prison experience, motorcycle gangs, and other counterculture types. These were rites of passage. And, yes, they were undoubtedly signals. Fraternity. Membership. Part of the club.
The first tattoo I ever saw on a woman was on a biker chick. Okay, same type of signal. Then it became an act of rebellion. Mommy says no tat? Just wait till I hit 18! So, yes, a signal.
When the lower back tattoos started showing up, the people most critical of women with them were… other women.
Woman to friend: “Did you see Hayley got herself a tramp stamp?”
Woman friend, rolling her eyes, “Why am I not surprised?”
Nowadays, they call it body art and turn themselves into a walking scrapbook of traumatic life events. Even my goddaughter has a tattoo of her dead cat. “To remember him by.” Good grief.
>create something ugly and repulsive
>call it Art
🤔
I don’t see male tats the same. From my casual observation. I am not gay, by the way, so I haven’t really thought about it. But casual observation says guys who tat up tend to be heavier drinkers and drug users. They tend to be LESS career oriented, other than in construction trades.
I personally find heavily tatted up women to be not attractive. Even if I can look under the ink and see someone objectively very attractive.
Richard Cooper, thank you for this powerful and yet very sorrowful exposition on what I call, at 73 and 1/2, "the war between men and women", a centuries-long battle that does nothing to heal our tribes. I was extremely promiscuous in my youth, for a decade and only got STD's, two abortions in 1973, broken heart (gave and received) and the realization that all this prowling only leads to sadness. "Getting our rocks off" is not much of a noble goal, even when I understand the pursuit. I have ZERO tatoos, only earlobes pierced and that is it. I pursued men with gusto in my youth and had to learn a very sobering lesson...promiscuity does not lead anywhere good. Interesting statement: "Men are not wrong to read the signal - but understanding what the signal actually means is what separates a man who vets well from a man who gets played." If that is not a sad statement between men and women, I do not know what is. I am not ugly but I am hardly a great beauty, not a Lambo...but I have high intelligence, kindness, compassion, empathy, street-smart direct life experience and I do understand the broken-ness pouring out between men and women. I am grateful to no longer be young and in the awful battles. Keep writing, Sir. Wendy
Seems like the studies confirm the following:
1. Tattooed women ARE “looser” than non-tattooed women.
2. Guys who want to get laid ARE going to have better luck with tattooed women.
Go get’em, boys!
Right on!